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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprockey View Post
    I prefer humanist over feminist
    That's because your White, European, Christian privilege closes your eyes to the struggle ;) You have the luxury to think in such narrowly, broad terms.

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    When the leader of the March happens to be a convicted terrorist I have a hard time believing she really cares about anyone at all.

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    So what does Zionism say that makes it incongruous with feminism? This is not at all an issue with which I'm familiar beyond two state basic conversations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TapToTalk View Post
    That's because your White, European, Christian privilege closes your eyes to the struggle ;) You have the luxury to think in such narrowly, broad terms.
    Yawn

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    Quote Originally Posted by jen View Post
    So what does Zionism say that makes it incongruous with feminism?
    https://www.thenation.com/article/ca...rsour-says-no/

    My original link was broken...

    When you talk about feminism you’re talking about the rights of all women and their families to live in dignity, peace, and security. It’s about giving women access to health care and other basic rights. And Israel is a country that continues to occupy territories in Palestine, has people under siege at checkpoints—we have women who have babies on checkpoints because they’re not able to get to hospitals [in time]. It just doesn’t make any sense for someone to say, “Is there room for people who support the state of Israel and do not criticize it in the movement?” There can’t be in feminism. You either stand up for the rights of all women, including Palestinians, or none. There’s just no way around it.
    That is her logic and totally ignores the excellent health care and women's rights for Palestinian women that are superior to other countries in the region. Is there room for improvement? Yes. Are the checkpoints a debatable issue? Yes. Should Israel and Zionism be singled out over other countries? No. Should pro-Israel feminists be shut out of the marches and organizing? NO.

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    Ah! Thank you.


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    Did anyone else read Zionism as Zombies? No? Me neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogagirl View Post
    Did anyone else read Zionism as Zombies? No? Me neither.
    Bartender, I'll have one of what she's having.

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    Whatever I'm having it's stronger, because I totally thought she was asking if anyone had read the book, "Zionism as Zombies", and didn't realize that was not the case until TTT's follow up comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandora View Post
    Whatever I'm having it's stronger, because I totally thought she was asking if anyone had read the book, "Zionism as Zombies", and didn't realize that was not the case until TTT's follow up comment.
    I totally saw this as well and wanted to read the book.

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